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Friday, June 08, 2007

Three Days of Lilies. Day Three: Annick Goutal, Frederic Malle, Serge Lutens...And a Prize Draw.

Today is the last day of lilies, devoted to my most favorite scents featuring the note. These are the lilies to die for, nor a thorn nor a threat stains their beauty bright.

Serge Lutens Un Lys is the lily that I loved even when I did not like floral perfumes in general and lily scents in particular. Reading reviews and forums, I noticed that very often "floral-haters" single out Un Lys as one of a few obviously-floral perfumes they can wear and love. The secret of its success with the floral-phobic and lily-phobic perfumistas, I think, lies in the presence of vanilla. The scent is a perfect example of what a judicious, masterful use of the note can do to a composition. When used right, vanilla softens what otherwise could have been overly-sharp, soothes what could have been too harsh, but it does not overwhelm, over-sweeten or take over the composition. In the case of Un Lys, vanilla rids the lily note of its grating, high-pitched, metallic quality and enhances its lush, sweet (but not too sweet) floralcy. The delicate musky drydown is a comfortable skin-scent, which lingers long after the velvety flowers wear off.

Annick Goutal Des Lys is another lily scent that is soft and non-aggressive. The delicacy is achieved here by the means different from those employed in Un Lys. There is no vanilla in Des Lys, no sweetness added to the naturally sweet-smelling lilies. In fact, the lilies aren't even that sweet here. This is a cold scent, but not in an unpleasantly-aquatic manner. Des Lys is cool as a transparent white fabric wavering in the fresh morning breeze. This is a green (I smell leaves and stems of the flowers, not just the petals, especially in the beginning), translucent lily and the translucency is what prevents the scent from being sharp. The notes listed for Des Lys are casablanca and white lilies, and I am not an expert on lilies, but of the two, the fresher, brighter smell of white lilies seem to me to be more prominent than the spicy-creamy aroma of casablancas. Believe it or not, I also smell a leather-like accord in the base of Des Lys. One would not expect it from a scent so airy, so ethereally-feminine, but I swear there is something in the drydown that makes me think of leather (and, sometimes, hay) ... evoking in my mind an image of a fragile white lily with a black leather stem.

Edouard Flechier's Lys Méditerranée created for Frederic Malle's Editions de Parfum is anything but fragile. This is a Big Flower, just like one would expect from Flechier. Lys Méditerranée is a dazzling beauty viewed in close-up, larger than life, an intoxicating, unapologetically luscious rendition of (ginger) lilies. It starts with a bright, piquant bang of lilies and orange blossom. At times, the top notes are so spicy on me, I suspect the presence of carnations, but that of course might just be the zingy natural smell of ginger lilies. Sometimes the scent has a slightly marine undertone, sometimes Lys skips that part of its composition completely on my skin. When I smell the vaguely aquatic note in Lys Méditerranée, it does not bother me, as it does not possess the jarring metallic quality I abhor. When I smell Lys Méditerranée, I see majestic (and gigantic) white flowers, so big and ripe that their stems are almost unable to hold them, their sultry petals luxuriating in the coolness of the wind that comes from the sea. I love the musky base of Lys Méditerranée; the musk here is neither too clean nor overtly animalic. It is white musk gone slightly wild, led a little astray by the decadent, lascivious lilies. Lys Méditerranée is also available as body oil, and is just as gorgeous in that formulation albeit a little less complex, less audacious and much sweeter. If the regular version seems a little too heady to you, huile à tout faire might be a good alternative. Along with Antica Farmacista's Casablanca, Lys Méditerranée tops the list of my favorite lily scents, with Un Lys, Des Lys and Gold following closely behind.

Un Lys is available at Aedes, $120.00 for 1.69oz; Des Lys was last spotted on, $49.40 for 1.7oz; Lys Mediterranee is sold at Barney's, $75.00-$180.00.

If you would like to receive a set of (7) samples of some of the lily scents I talked about this week, including Lys Méditerranée and Lys Méditerranée oil, Des Lys, and more, please let me know in your comment that you want to be entered in the prize draw. A winner will be announced on Monday morning.

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Blogger Ina said...

I really like your description of Lys Mediterranee! It's a grown-up, mature lily for sure. I didn't used to like it but adore it now. The oil is much softer and rounded on my skin. Love them both.

10:02 PM EDT  
Blogger tmp00 said...

These three are wonders aren't they?

I have to add that Barneys also has Un Lys, as does Fred Segal in Los Angeles and Santa Monica.

Until it goes away, that is.

10:04 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Your blog is such a true delight. I look forward to coming home each night to read it. Hope you and Mr. C are happy in your new home. Since you already know I love AF Casablanca, YES, pleaes enter me in your prize draw.

10:19 PM EDT  
Blogger Noy said...

Just tried Un Lys two days ago, inspired by your lily week! I'd been terrified of white florals up until recently -- they do scary things in the crushing heat of Bangkok... But Un Lys was divine -- I see its potential as a gateway drug! Please enter me in the drawing. I'd love to continue the lily experiment!

10:38 PM EDT  
Blogger Bryan said...

You write so effortlessly, yet so exquisitely. I want to go drown myself in Lys Med. or Des Lys right away. Thank you for reminding me that Tuberose is not the only luscious floral out there....I need that once in a while. I love all of these but don't reach for them enough. I will remedy that straight away. I must try the oil, though.

11:23 PM EDT  
Anonymous zeram1 said...

I loved Un Lys, but I thought that it was a bit linear (which had been rare for most of the other SL's) on my skin. I'd love to try some other lilies some day soon.

Please enter me into your prize drawing as well.

11:24 PM EDT  
Blogger saralevy said...

I always enjoy reading your blog--Koto has long been my favorite lily but you have me curious to try others. Can I enter your prize draw, please? Thanks, Sara

12:32 AM EDT  
Blogger lavanya said...

Hi M,

Un Lys *is* pretty isn't it?..I've been wearing it (with a very light hand) the past couple of days..Haven't tried the others though..but your descriptions are lovely (as usual..:))

I'd love to be entered in the draw.

1:26 AM EDT  
Anonymous MarkDavid said...

M - great reviews, these sound soo superb. I am just starting to appreciate lily scents, would love to be entered in the drawing.

Have a good weekend!!

1:30 AM EDT  
Blogger carmencanada said...

Un Lys is so sensuous I practically want to seduce myself when I wear it, if no other victim is around (though I suspect the remnants of my bell jar are a bit off: they've turned a garish orange). Lys Méd is my summer big white floral, precisely because of that (normally loathed) aquatic component... The oil, which I also own, is utterly lovely for days involving sun exposition (smooth some in my hair).
The Goutal I've never tried. Please enter me in the drawing.

2:17 AM EDT  
Anonymous Maria B. said...

Marina, you've convinced me that I need to try lily fragrances. Please enter me in the drawing. I'm not afraid of lilies... I'm not afraid of lilies... :-)

3:02 AM EDT  
Blogger elve said...

It's the first time I comment here, so first of all...
Great blog! I read it every single day, it brings me pleasure and inspiration!
I am one of these flower-haters, and what you wrote about lilies, especially Le Lys, makes me want to sniff it.

And yes, i'd like to be entered in the draw :)

3:28 AM EDT  
Anonymous Flora said...

I am any thing BUT afraid of lilies, bring it on! I would love to be entered in the drawing.

I wonder if there is any true lily at all in Lys Mediterranee, since "Ginger Lilies" are another thing altogether, and not related.(Lilium vs. Hedychium.) However, they do share the basic floral chemistry and indolic qualities, both being luscious white flowers that smell stronger in the evening. (I assume they use the white ginger lilies to make the perfume, as they are the most fragrant.)

3:30 AM EDT  
Anonymous dinazad said...

White flower scents generally make me cringe. Gardenia, tuberose, lily? Spare me! But lately, I've been strangely attracted to Fracas, so maybe it's time to take the plunge and *gasp* try them flower powers on my skin? So yes, please enter me in the draw.

3:41 AM EDT  
Blogger Anne said...

I have 2 of these 3 you mention, missing the AG. When I sprayed my samples I put them both away as too too much flower. I love these reviews because if it were left up to me and my impatient nose, I would miss what these have to offer. Needless to say, I will search for them and give them the respect and time they so deserve. Please enter me in the draw, I've got some lily work to do. Peace.

6:37 AM EDT  
Blogger elle said...

What absolutely brilliant descriptions! Love the image of a lily w/ a black leather stem for Des Lys. Will have to go maximal lily today w/ Un Lys on one wrist, Des Lys on the other and Koto on the ankle, since Sara's comment reminded me of it and I do adore it as well.

7:20 AM EDT  
Blogger lilyofbp (Judith) said...

You know, I tried Un lys a long time ago, and thought it was nice, but. . .I was moving in other directions. Obviously, I need to try it again:) So please enter me in the draw. . .

7:20 AM EDT  
Blogger marchlion said...

As you've sussed out, I'm not a huge lily fan, but even I can appreciate Un Lys and Des Lys (which is my I-hate-lilies-but-I-like-this scent)

8:06 AM EDT  
Anonymous katia said...

Your description of Lys Mediterranee makes me want to prove it so badly, that I think I'll start to look for it in my city right now !
Of course, I'd like to be in your prize draw...
Thank you !

8:10 AM EDT  
Anonymous newproducts said...

I like the sound of Lys Mediteranee, and am intrigued by the leather note you detect in Des Lys. I must say though, I am still most interested in Gold. It sounds the most complex in terms of not being just a soliflore. I'm going to dig in my bag of samples and see if I have one of Gold. I've enjoyed Lily week very much!

I have not tried any of the lily scents you have reviewed, so please enter me in the draw! :-)

8:15 AM EDT  
Anonymous court said...

I went to test my Un Lys sample after reading this. It is quite beautiful. I consider myself a floral agnostic--so far I've met few that really suit me--but this is one of the more promising ones. Would love to be entered in the draw to try the others. Thanks!

8:26 AM EDT  
Anonymous sybil said...

Lily week was great! I am a recent convert to Un Lys, and am trying to smell more lilies, so please enter me in the drawing.

8:28 AM EDT  
Blogger Beth Gehring said...

Although I adore lilies,and grow them en masse profusion in my garden I have never loved lily fragrnaces that much,because I've found them to be a bit claustrophobic. Reading these sensuous descriptions all week though has wet my appetite to see if perhaps I have grown up a bit! I would love to be entered into the drawing! Thank you so much for such a fun morning!

8:32 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I wonder what would happen if one layered the oil with the EDP. I think my small town would have to be evacuated :-)

8:50 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

strange how Un Lys disappeared and then re-appeared in all the usual SL haunts. I wish it was made permanently export.

8:56 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I will be forever grateful to you for introducing me to Casablanca!
You are in the draw!

8:57 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Gateway drug! Love that :-)
You are in the draw!

8:58 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You say the nicest things, thank you!
I love tuberose too, in fact, I am craving it something awful these days. And gardenia, another heady one.

8:58 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I agree, for SL, Un Lys IS a linear scent. But very charming all the same.
You are in the draw!

8:59 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

So lovely to see you here!
You are in the draw!

8:59 AM EDT  
Anonymous Tina (timam) said...

I totally agree with your review of SL Un Lys. this is a perfume of outstanding beauty yet very easy to wear even in the hottest days of the year.
of course I would like to participate in your prize draw :-D. who knows, maybe this time I'm the lucky one.
can't wait for the other floral reviews... *waits eagerly for a tuberose or jasmine week...*

9:01 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

It is one of the prettiest scents out there, I think.
You are in the draw!

9:03 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Have a great weekend too!
You are in the draw!

9:04 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

My Un Lys turned darker color too, but the smell didn't change at all.
You are in the draw!

9:05 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You are not afraid of are not afraid of lilies...
You are in the draw!

9:06 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Thank you very much for your kind words!
You are in the draw!

9:07 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I wonder if the creators knew what you know. I bet they didn't. I also think there are white lilies there, and I bet you there is something like carnation in the beginning. I swear I smell carnation.

9:08 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

It's funny about Fracas. Even when I was awfully afraid of white florals, I could wear Fracas and loved it very much. Weird, huh?
You are in the draw!

9:09 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Yes, please do try them again, they are wonderful!
You are in the draw!

9:09 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You know, Koto is more muguet on me than lily. But there are many scents that feature both and in some one note is stronger on me, in some the other. Take Alpine Lily. It could go the muguet way or the lily way. That one goes the lily way on me.

9:11 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

So we need to gently push you in the right (lily) direction :-)
You are in the draw!

9:12 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Well, that proves my theory that one doesn't have to be a fan of lilies to like those two scents.

9:12 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I hope you do find it!
You are in the draw!

9:12 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I think Gold and Lys Mediterranee are the most complex of them. And the headiest.
You are in the draw!

9:13 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Floral agnostic! I love that! :-)
You are in the draw!

9:16 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I hope you find more liles to like, apart from Un Lys.
You are in the draw!

9:17 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Claustrophobic is such a great word to describe the scent of (some) lilies. I supposed Lys Mediterranee might seem claustrophobic if over-sprayed.
You are in the draw!

9:17 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I think the tuberose week will be next. :-)
You are in the draw!

9:18 AM EDT  
Blogger donanicola said...

Thank you for all 3 of your lily reviews, Marina. As ever they are intriguing and tempting. I have entirely thrown off my white flower suspicion in the last year! However the only lily I have tried is Gold and I liked it. It is on my list to look for in duty free next week at Stansted which has quite a decent perfume section (the number of times I have kicked myself over not buying a set of darling minatures of the classic Lancomes inc Sikkim). Please would you enter me in the drawing!

9:21 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I hope you do find Gold there.
You are in the draw!

9:36 AM EDT  
Blogger greeneyes said...

I love Un Lys, but Lys Mediterranee is one of my absolute favorite perfumes. The first time I wore it, I knew I had to have it...I bought a decant, but I don't think it's going to last very long!

I must try the Goutal. Just ordered a sample of the Calypso late last week...darn! After your review, hardly seems worth it. Oh well...c'est la sampling!

And on a non-perfume related note: My word verification for this comment is "quitjhob"--think the universe is trying to tell me something?! ;-)

9:44 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Blogger, the oracle! :-)

Well, maybe St Barth's Lily will be fabulous on you! You just never know.

9:48 AM EDT  
Blogger StyleSpy said...

Hooray!!! Thanks for all the lily talk, M! It's like perfume porn for little ol' me. And please enter me in the drawing.

I just discovered AF Casablanca & I'm in love. Looking around semi-desperately for a decant, if anyone knows of such a thing.

9:55 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Perfume porn, haha!
You are in the draw!

10:04 AM EDT  
Blogger Patty said...

Two of my favorite lillies, and I totally agree about them being the best. I need to run down the Des Lys.

11:22 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

1stperfume used to have it, for under $40. By the time I made up my mind to risk ordering from them, they were out of stock, ugh.

11:23 AM EDT  
Anonymous agritty said...

Thanks so much for these reviews! I love Lys Med. I actually had the pleasure of a long consultation with a fabulous saleswoman at the Frederic Malle boutique in Paris several years ago. I got the full psychological analysis a la Malle and to my surprise she recommended Lys Med. I bought it and to be honest it took a while for me to really fall in love, but now it is one of my absolute favorite perfumes and my signature summer scent! I love the musk and the angelica in the dry down, and for some reason my skin doesn't really pick up on the marine note (thankfully). I would love to be entered in your draw!

11:33 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

That consultation sounds like a wonderful experience!
You are in the draw.

11:34 AM EDT  
Anonymous Teri said...

White flower fragrances were my first love and the romance continues to this day (although I'm no longer always 'faithful' to this love of mine). I've enjoyed your lily fragrance reviews and would love to be entered in the drawing.

Thanks so much.

11:41 AM EDT  
Anonymous Leopoldo said...

Seeing as I've only tried one of these (usual fears) I'd love to be thrown in the draw, my lovely.

i have ginger lilies in my garden; they don't flower til September / October. And they range in colour from pure white to orange red. The scent is exquisite and has a slightly spicy edge.

11:45 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

It most decidedly was not my first love, white flowers...but now I am catching up :-)
You are in the draw!

11:51 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

A slightly spicy edge is exactly what Lys has. You garden sounds amazing!
You are in the draw.

11:51 AM EDT  
Blogger Jenavira13 said...

Well, that's it you have pushed me into needing to try AF Casablancas (Ironically when this first came out and everyone was carrying it not a single person making samples of it, I tried buying from bother bglowing and beautyhabit, but I will try again). Please add me to the drawing.

12:28 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please include me in your drawing. I read your blog everyday and find it most informative.

12:34 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Beautyhabit should have samples of it, for sure.
You are in the draw.

12:35 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Thank you, you are in the draw.

12:36 PM EDT  
Blogger NowSmellThis said...

Great review. I've been puzzling over the FM for a long time. Several times I've been close to buying it, then decided nah, it isn't all that wonderful. Now I'll have to pull it out again and see :-)

12:51 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

It wasn't wonderful before, but now it is :-) The same applies to Carnal Flower.

12:53 PM EDT  
Blogger Anita said...

Love the thought of a white lily w/a black leather stem! Always more to smell..

Thanks for the lovely reviews, I have enjoyed Three Days of Lilies. Please enter me in the drawing.

1:33 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Thank you! You are in the draw.

1:42 PM EDT  
Blogger Kim Carney said...

May I enter the draw please! Lilly and ginger, ahhhh

2:01 PM EDT  
Blogger Jennifer said...

I gave my daughter Un Lys for her twenty-first birthday (just two short months ago!). I love it too, but it is not quite me in the way that it is her. I've been entranced with your reviews all week--well, I'm *always* entranced by your reviews. But this time it's been for myself and also thinking of her love for lilies and lily fragrances. Please enter me in the drawing -- she and I will share if I win!
p.s. I comment rarely, but when I do I used to be JenniferR. Blogger has taken it away, and I don't know how to get it back ...

2:05 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Of course! You are in the draw!

2:08 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Congratulations on your daughter's 21st birthday!! And what a great present!
You are in the draw.

2:09 PM EDT  
Blogger Jill said...

This series of reviews was enlightening, since this is a note I'm not familiar with.
So now my curiosity is piqued and I'd love to be entered in the drawing.

2:40 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Thank you! You are in the draw!

2:42 PM EDT  
Anonymous Divalano said...

Uncle, uncle already!

I actually hate lilies, won't let them in my house, aggressively scented monsters who take over & make me sneeze but ... Un Lys does sound ... vanilla, did you say? and then musk? in a Lutens?

uncle ... it's on the To Sniff list now ...

4:35 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Yep :-) And it won't take over or make you sneeze.

4:37 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

In my case the SL Un Lys smells exactly like Lilacs, not lily. As someone else commented it is also quite linear. However, it is a rich long lasting perfume that works on cool spring days...I'd love to be included in the draw..I'm just learning about all theses treasures...and have become addicted to this blog,

7:43 PM EDT  
Blogger Gail S said...

Hmm, I haven't tried any of these, so I would dearly love to be entered in the drawing! Thanks!

8:40 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am broadening my horizons & exploring flower scents... so far: rose, lavender, lily of the valley. Thanks for your wonderful reviews and enter me in your lily sample drawing

9:18 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

I have heard from other people too that they smell lilacs rather than lilies in Un Lys. On me it's just lilies, lilies and more lilies. Funny, huh?
You are in the draw!

9:28 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Anonymous No 2 :-)
You are in the draw, thank you!

9:29 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Of course, you are in!

9:29 PM EDT  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think I have read your blog every day you posted for the last couple months. I'm an English teacher - and I love the way you easily combine great author references with fragrance, my 2 passions. Please enter me for this delightful drawing. On a teacher's salary, I find myself dreaming of Un Lys late at night as I grade compositions.
-Emily N.

9:31 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Dear Emily,
Thank you so much for your kind words! You are in the draw!

9:38 PM EDT  
Anonymous Twibbet said...

I have Un Lys (I used to smell lilacs, but now it's all lily on me) and Gold, but I don't believe I've smelled any of these others. If it's not too late, can I be in the drawing?

2:31 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

It's not too late, you are in the draw!

2:32 PM EDT  
Blogger Dana said...

Now I'm quite curious about trying Un Lys and Lys Mediterranee; your descriptions have me tempted. Please include me in the draw. Thanks!

10:37 PM EDT  
Anonymous olga said...

Dear Marina,
This comment is running late but hope not too late... there are so many of us who login every day to read your reviews but never dare to speak up our minds! Thanks for the wonderful lily week (did I miss Diorissimo?) and the very tempting description of Malle's Lys M, I sprayed it only once on my skin and I just simply didn't get it! Hope that a second time around will expand my horizons. I am already blessed with a bell jar of Un Lys, thinking of dabbing on some right now...
Greetings from the Netherlands!

6:34 AM EDT  
Blogger Theresa said...

I have yet to find a Lily scent I really like, so I would love to be entered in the drawing. Thanks!

7:03 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You are in, thanks!

11:36 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Please don't hesitate to comment whenever you feel like it!

11:37 AM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You are in, thanks!

11:37 AM EDT  
Blogger Ari said...

Hi Marina! I am a huge fan of your blog, and would love to be entered in the prize draw =) Lys Mediterranee sounds just gorgeous... the med sea is around where i grew up, and it has such happy memories for me...

2:41 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

Thank you! You are in the draw!

2:44 PM EDT  
Anonymous lindabd said...

The only one of these three that I've tried (and own!) is Un Lys. I love it, and I didn't think I'd like lily! The first time I smelled it I was taken back to the Tatiana I used to wear in high school! I'm eager to try the other two based on your reviews. Please do enter me in your draw! Thanks. :)

3:20 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

You are in the draw, thank you!

3:25 PM EDT  
Anonymous zara said...

lilies always remind me of weddings, a noble flower that's hard to capture

5:25 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

me too! they are very wedding-y flowers, I think :-)

5:29 PM EDT  
Anonymous violadiparma said...

I love lilies, i live in Poland , sending samples would be too expensive. i grusno i skutschno eech

4:18 PM EDT  
Blogger Colombina (Marina) said...

This prize draw is closed, but please don't hesitate to enter the next, when I have one. I don't mind sending to Poland.

4:20 PM EDT  

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